Comments on: Why We Need Enough Cholesterol http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2007/10/11/why-we-need-enough-cholesterol/ Self-Experimentation, Scientific Method, the Shangri-La Diet, etc. Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:28:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.7 by: seth http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2007/10/11/why-we-need-enough-cholesterol/#comment-51209 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:57:00 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2007/10/11/why-we-need-enough-cholesterol/#comment-51209 "The theory that low cholesterol turns one into a murder victim seems a classic cse of confusing correlation with causation." The data are from experiments. They imply causation. “The theory that low cholesterol turns one into a murder victim seems a classic cse of confusing correlation with causation.” The data are from experiments. They imply causation.

]]> by: Dennis Mangan http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2007/10/11/why-we-need-enough-cholesterol/#comment-51183 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:48:47 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2007/10/11/why-we-need-enough-cholesterol/#comment-51183 I see one flaw: though low cholesterol, if it did indeed have the brain effects that are claimed, might influence accidents and homicide - in the sense of "he was asking for it" - it's not clear that that is the case, and it's highly doubtful that it could account for many of them. The theory that low cholesterol turns one into a murder victim seems a classic case of confusing correlation with causation. I would imagine that the sort of people who take statins don't often get involved in violent street confrontations. Also note that the group had fewer heart attacks. I see one flaw: though low cholesterol, if it did indeed have the brain effects that are claimed, might influence accidents and homicide - in the sense of “he was asking for it” - it’s not clear that that is the case, and it’s highly doubtful that it could account for many of them. The theory that low cholesterol turns one into a murder victim seems a classic case of confusing correlation with causation. I would imagine that the sort of people who take statins don’t often get involved in violent street confrontations. Also note that the group had fewer heart attacks.

]]> by: seth http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2007/10/11/why-we-need-enough-cholesterol/#comment-51170 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:23:59 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2007/10/11/why-we-need-enough-cholesterol/#comment-51170 A. Way, there was a mistake in my post. It was violent deaths in general, not just suicides, that went up. Here is a description: <blockquote>With the combined data the researchers could study the experience of nearly 25,000 male subjects followed for an average of 4.8 years. Half of the 25,000 had been given treatment to lower their cholesterol. Although members of this group had 28 fewer heart-attack deaths than the controls, they had 29 more violent deaths (from accidents, suicide, or homicide).</blockquote> What was the flaw in the study? A. Way, there was a mistake in my post. It was violent deaths in general, not just suicides, that went up. Here is a description:

With the combined data the researchers could study the experience of nearly 25,000 male subjects followed for an average of 4.8 years. Half of the 25,000 had been given treatment to lower their cholesterol. Although members of this group had 28 fewer heart-attack deaths than the controls, they had 29 more violent deaths (from accidents, suicide, or homicide).

What was the flaw in the study?

]]> by: Tom http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2007/10/11/why-we-need-enough-cholesterol/#comment-51122 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:33:35 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2007/10/11/why-we-need-enough-cholesterol/#comment-51122 That blog is fascinating...it's some site in India that is aggregating by machine. There is clearly no human involved. That blog is fascinating…it’s some site in India that is aggregating by machine. There is clearly no human involved.

]]> by: A. Way http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2007/10/11/why-we-need-enough-cholesterol/#comment-51114 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:06:27 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2007/10/11/why-we-need-enough-cholesterol/#comment-51114 The suicide rate study was flawed. And I hope so. My cholesterol is measured in double digits. The same as many Chinese studied back in the 70's and 80's and in whom you could not find heart disease. See the book, "The China Study". The suicide rate study was flawed. And I hope so. My cholesterol is measured in double digits. The same as many Chinese studied back in the 70’s and 80’s and in whom you could not find heart disease. See the book, “The China Study”.

]]> by: www.topcholesteroladvice.info » Why We Need Enough Cholesterol http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2007/10/11/why-we-need-enough-cholesterol/#comment-51029 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:44:13 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2007/10/11/why-we-need-enough-cholesterol/#comment-51029 [...] seth wrote a fantastic post today on “Why We Need Enough Cholesterol”Here’s ONLY a quick extractAnother excellent post from Michael Eades discusses a new study that found elderly people with lower cholesterol had faster cognitive decline than those with higher cholesterol. Suggesting that cholesterol protects your brain. … [...] […] seth wrote a fantastic post today on “Why We Need Enough Cholesterol”Here’s ONLY a quick extractAnother excellent post from Michael Eades discusses a new study that found elderly people with lower cholesterol had faster cognitive decline than those with higher cholesterol. Suggesting that cholesterol protects your brain. … […]

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