Comments on: SLD on TV (postmortem) http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2008/07/14/sld-on-tv-postmortem/ Self-Experimentation, Scientific Method, the Shangri-La Diet, etc. Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:36:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.7 by: Stephen M (Ethesis) http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2008/07/14/sld-on-tv-postmortem/#comment-218661 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:50:16 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2008/07/14/sld-on-tv-postmortem/#comment-218661 <b>But what allowed him to eat less was that drinking the flavorless oil caused his set point to lower which thereby reduced his hunger and cravings, thus leading to a reduction in caloric intake (smaller, less frequent meals, loss of appetite for ditto foods, etc.). So the critic was right, but failed to see the significance of the oil in kick-starting and maintaining the weight loss. </b> Exactly. But what allowed him to eat less was that drinking the flavorless oil caused his set point to lower which thereby reduced his hunger and cravings, thus leading to a reduction in caloric intake (smaller, less frequent meals, loss of appetite for ditto foods, etc.). So the critic was right, but failed to see the significance of the oil in kick-starting and maintaining the weight loss.

Exactly.

]]> by: VesnaVK http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2008/07/14/sld-on-tv-postmortem/#comment-201402 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:39:11 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2008/07/14/sld-on-tv-postmortem/#comment-201402 "S/he just ate less food, that's all" is also a common criticism of low-carb approaches to weight loss. I've never understood how it's supposed to translate to a negative comment, but somehow people mean it that way, and take it that way. If eating less leads to weight loss (I don't agree with the positive/negative energy balance theory of fat accumulation and loss, so I say "if"), then wouldn't anything that helps you eat less without suffering be a good thing? “S/he just ate less food, that’s all” is also a common criticism of low-carb approaches to weight loss. I’ve never understood how it’s supposed to translate to a negative comment, but somehow people mean it that way, and take it that way.

If eating less leads to weight loss (I don’t agree with the positive/negative energy balance theory of fat accumulation and loss, so I say “if”), then wouldn’t anything that helps you eat less without suffering be a good thing?

]]> by: Chaim Rubin http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2008/07/14/sld-on-tv-postmortem/#comment-194121 Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:45:27 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2008/07/14/sld-on-tv-postmortem/#comment-194121 I found the second (SLD) segment Googling this site:http://www.mandjshow.com investigates trends The page is gone or broken but click 'Cached' below the link with --continued in the URL and you will find enlightenment (actual link:http://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:0bnSNMkYoZYJ:www.mandjshow.com/videos/%E2%80%9Cmj-investigates%E2%80%9D-new-dieting-trends-%E2%80%93-continued/+site:http://www.mandjshow.com+investigates+trends&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us) Get it while it's hot. I may try this. I have not watched TV for years, and found the panel including the accredited ones to be buffoons, but maybe they were instructed to be confrontational. There is a big trade off trying to discuss anything intelligently in that kind of forum. All three diets look fine, I guess the quest for Shangri-La is to work smarter and not harder I found the second (SLD) segment Googling this
site:http://www.mandjshow.com investigates trends

The page is gone or broken but click ‘Cached’ below the link with –continued in the URL and you will find enlightenment (actual link:http://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:0bnSNMkYoZYJ:www.mandjshow.com/videos/%E2%80%9Cmj-investigates%E2%80%9D-new-dieting-trends-%E2%80%93-continued/+site:http://www.mandjshow.com+investigates+trends&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us)

Get it while it’s hot.

I may try this. I have not watched TV for years, and found the panel including the accredited ones to be buffoons, but maybe they were instructed to be confrontational. There is a big trade off trying to discuss anything intelligently in that kind of forum. All three diets look fine, I guess the quest for Shangri-La is to work smarter and not harder

]]> by: Aaron Blaisdell http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2008/07/14/sld-on-tv-postmortem/#comment-192517 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:34:18 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2008/07/14/sld-on-tv-postmortem/#comment-192517 Wait a minute. I thought the whole point of the SLD was that it allows the body's set point to move to a lower value, which then leaves you less hungry, so that you eat less. Wasn't this the logic presented in the book? So in a sense the critic was right, Steve lost weight because he ate less. But what allowed him to eat less was that drinking the flavorless oil caused his set point to lower which thereby reduced his hunger and cravings, thus leading to a reduction in caloric intake (smaller, less frequent meals, loss of appetite for ditto foods, etc.). So the critic was right, but failed to see the significance of the oil in kick-starting and maintaining the weight loss. Wait a minute. I thought the whole point of the SLD was that it allows the body’s set point to move to a lower value, which then leaves you less hungry, so that you eat less. Wasn’t this the logic presented in the book? So in a sense the critic was right, Steve lost weight because he ate less. But what allowed him to eat less was that drinking the flavorless oil caused his set point to lower which thereby reduced his hunger and cravings, thus leading to a reduction in caloric intake (smaller, less frequent meals, loss of appetite for ditto foods, etc.). So the critic was right, but failed to see the significance of the oil in kick-starting and maintaining the weight loss.

]]> by: seth http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2008/07/14/sld-on-tv-postmortem/#comment-192078 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:05:49 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2008/07/14/sld-on-tv-postmortem/#comment-192078 Yeah, saying he lost weight "because he ate less food" is some sort of low point. Aaron, that's a good point about Pavlov. Yeah, I should do that. Yeah, saying he lost weight “because he ate less food” is some sort of low point.

Aaron, that’s a good point about Pavlov. Yeah, I should do that.

]]> by: Laura http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2008/07/14/sld-on-tv-postmortem/#comment-192060 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:47:16 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2008/07/14/sld-on-tv-postmortem/#comment-192060 David wrote: I just watched the clip. Pretty amazing when they say “He didn’t lose weight because he drank oil. He lost it because he ate less food.” Was that not the stupidest thing you've ever heard? Did that woman think Seth was claiming some sort of magical fat-burning properties for the oil? Ugh. I agree...chair throwing was in order. And re: "Valerie"...hilarious! David wrote: I just watched the clip. Pretty amazing when they say “He didn’t lose weight because he drank oil. He lost it because he ate less food.”

Was that not the stupidest thing you’ve ever heard? Did that woman think Seth was claiming some sort of magical fat-burning properties for the oil? Ugh. I agree…chair throwing was in order.

And re: “Valerie”…hilarious!

]]> by: Tom http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2008/07/14/sld-on-tv-postmortem/#comment-191937 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:09:41 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2008/07/14/sld-on-tv-postmortem/#comment-191937 And it's even more impressive that "Valerie" managed to write ten weeks of blog entries...considering the blog was created yesterday. http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=myfatloss4idiotsjournal.info&prog_id=godaddy And it’s even more impressive that “Valerie” managed to write ten weeks of blog entries…considering the blog was created yesterday.

http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=myfatloss4idiotsjournal.info&prog_id=godaddy

]]> by: Tom http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2008/07/14/sld-on-tv-postmortem/#comment-191929 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:43:02 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2008/07/14/sld-on-tv-postmortem/#comment-191929 "Valerie," or should I say Jason LeGris, you have built the phoniest affiliate squeeze page I have ever seen. (And it takes a bit of gall to promote a diet that rips Seth's work off on his blog!) “Valerie,” or should I say Jason LeGris, you have built the phoniest affiliate squeeze page I have ever seen. (And it takes a bit of gall to promote a diet that rips Seth’s work off on his blog!)

]]> by: Valerie http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2008/07/14/sld-on-tv-postmortem/#comment-191911 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:57:49 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2008/07/14/sld-on-tv-postmortem/#comment-191911 Losing weight is all about controling the 2 hormones - insulin and glucagon. Insulin stores energy (fat), glucagon releases energy. This is easily manipulated by the foods you eat. Get this right, and the weight will just fall off. I went from over 150 pounds to 119 in a very short time. Losing weight is all about controling the 2 hormones - insulin and glucagon. Insulin stores energy (fat), glucagon releases energy.

This is easily manipulated by the foods you eat. Get this right, and the weight will just fall off. I went from over 150 pounds to 119 in a very short time.

]]> by: Tom http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2008/07/14/sld-on-tv-postmortem/#comment-191910 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:56:42 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2008/07/14/sld-on-tv-postmortem/#comment-191910 I was able to find the first segment at http://www.mandjshow.com/videos/“mj-investigates”-new-dieting-trends/ but the 2nd segment (with SLD) is missing. Can anybody find it? I was able to find the first segment at
http://www.mandjshow.com/videos/“mj-investigates”-new-dieting-trends/
but the 2nd segment (with SLD) is missing. Can anybody find it?

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