Comments on: How Things Begin (Japan Traditional Foods) http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/how-things-begin-japan-traditional-foods/ Self-Experimentation, Scientific Method, the Shangri-La Diet, etc. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:43:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.7 by: anna http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/how-things-begin-japan-traditional-foods/#comment-341541 Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:37:01 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/how-things-begin-japan-traditional-foods/#comment-341541 Oh, I didn't realize that. I'll go back and buy some. Thanks Oh, I didn’t realize that. I’ll go back and buy some.

Thanks

]]> by: seth http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/how-things-begin-japan-traditional-foods/#comment-341096 Mon, 07 Sep 2009 03:41:27 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/how-things-begin-japan-traditional-foods/#comment-341096 Anna, the soy sauce is in a sealed packet that comes with the natto. If you want to avoid it, just throw the packet away. Anna, the soy sauce is in a sealed packet that comes with the natto. If you want to avoid it, just throw the packet away.

]]> by: anna http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/how-things-begin-japan-traditional-foods/#comment-341067 Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:54:26 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/how-things-begin-japan-traditional-foods/#comment-341067 Thanks for responding, Seth. I know natto itself is gluten-free but I tried to buy a container of natto recently, after hearing about it for the first time, and every different brand I picked up had wheat listed as an ingredient in the soy sauce. Those of us who are gluten intolerant can't handle even a little wheat in soy sauce. I wonder if natto with gluten free soy sauce is out there somewhere.... thanks again Thanks for responding, Seth. I know natto itself is gluten-free but I tried to buy a container of natto recently, after hearing about it for the first time, and every different brand I picked up had wheat listed as an ingredient in the soy sauce. Those of us who are gluten intolerant can’t handle even a little wheat in soy sauce. I wonder if natto with gluten free soy sauce is out there somewhere….
thanks again

]]> by: seth http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/how-things-begin-japan-traditional-foods/#comment-339169 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 02:37:19 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/how-things-begin-japan-traditional-foods/#comment-339169 Anna, soybeans do not contain gluten. All natto is gluten-free. Anna, soybeans do not contain gluten. All natto is gluten-free.

]]> by: anna http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/how-things-begin-japan-traditional-foods/#comment-339160 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 02:25:49 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/how-things-begin-japan-traditional-foods/#comment-339160 Do you know where I could purchase, or would you blog about how to make, gluten-free natto? Many thanks Do you know where I could purchase, or would you blog about how to make, gluten-free natto?

Many thanks

]]> by: How Things Begin (Japan Traditional Foods) http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/how-things-begin-japan-traditional-foods/#comment-307526 Tue, 26 May 2009 17:04:07 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/how-things-begin-japan-traditional-foods/#comment-307526 [...] How Things Begin (Japan Traditional Foods) This post was written by SuperFoodie on May 26, 2009 Posted Under: Superfood Talk How Things Begin (Japan Traditional Foods) [...] […] How Things Begin (Japan Traditional Foods) This post was written by SuperFoodie on May 26, 2009 Posted Under: Superfood Talk How Things Begin (Japan Traditional Foods) […]

]]> by: Confidence http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/how-things-begin-japan-traditional-foods/#comment-303930 Sat, 16 May 2009 15:37:07 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/how-things-begin-japan-traditional-foods/#comment-303930 @Patrik, Blog comments are singularly ill-adapted for discussing complex topics. It may be better if you email Seth directly regarding specific topics. I've noticed plenty of bloggers often only reply to the easiest and most lowest-common-denominator comments. It's a time-management and resource issue. I have yet to find a platform for such discussions that beats email. I do agree with many of your points and would like to see them addressed, but I know both you and Seth will have difficulties digging even one more level deeper on these concepts if you try to do it via blog comments. @Patrik,

Blog comments are singularly ill-adapted for discussing complex topics. It may be better if you email Seth directly regarding specific topics. I’ve noticed plenty of bloggers often only reply to the easiest and most lowest-common-denominator comments. It’s a time-management and resource issue.

I have yet to find a platform for such discussions that beats email.

I do agree with many of your points and would like to see them addressed, but I know both you and Seth will have difficulties digging even one more level deeper on these concepts if you try to do it via blog comments.

]]> by: Patrik http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/how-things-begin-japan-traditional-foods/#comment-302565 Wed, 13 May 2009 20:31:04 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/how-things-begin-japan-traditional-foods/#comment-302565 @Seth Why do you continue to duck my comments? Confirmation bias much? This is quite disappointing. @Seth

Why do you continue to duck my comments? Confirmation bias much?

This is quite disappointing.

]]> by: Patrik http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/how-things-begin-japan-traditional-foods/#comment-302274 Tue, 12 May 2009 21:58:56 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/how-things-begin-japan-traditional-foods/#comment-302274 @Seth http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6TD0-3W2T4R5-K&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=aa7670d043a56393999242bafdd95084 "<i><b>Injection of live but not dead bacteria induces a wave of IL-12 and subsequently, IFN-γ production.</b> Surprisingly, in vitro, both live and dead bacteria elicit IL-12 from macrophages. Better understanding of how macrophages distinguish live from dead bacteria would help explain this difference and possibly bypass the need for live vaccines against intracellular bacteria."</i> http://www.meningitisuk.org/research/previous-projects.htm <i>Live meningococcal bacteria were found to be poorly phagocytosed by dendritic cells compared to killed bacteria <b>and the special messenger molecules (cytokines) produced by dendritic cells in response to live and dead bacteria were quite different.</b> Unexpectedly, the live bacteria stimulated more IL12 required for a good immune response and less IL10, a cytokine thought to inhibit the immune response. This finding is important for developing dead whole bacteria vaccines which are made using the whole bacterium rather than purified components of it, and for understanding how live bacteria in the host affect the immune response.</i> @Seth

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6TD0-3W2T4R5-K&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=aa7670d043a56393999242bafdd95084

“Injection of live but not dead bacteria induces a wave of IL-12 and subsequently, IFN-γ production. Surprisingly, in vitro, both live and dead bacteria elicit IL-12 from macrophages. Better understanding of how macrophages distinguish live from dead bacteria would help explain this difference and possibly bypass the need for live vaccines against intracellular bacteria.”

http://www.meningitisuk.org/research/previous-projects.htm

Live meningococcal bacteria were found to be poorly phagocytosed by dendritic cells compared to killed bacteria and the special messenger molecules (cytokines) produced by dendritic cells in response to live and dead bacteria were quite different. Unexpectedly, the live bacteria stimulated more IL12 required for a good immune response and less IL10, a cytokine thought to inhibit the immune response. This finding is important for developing dead whole bacteria vaccines which are made using the whole bacterium rather than purified components of it, and for understanding how live bacteria in the host affect the immune response.

]]> by: Patrik http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/how-things-begin-japan-traditional-foods/#comment-302263 Tue, 12 May 2009 21:16:39 +0000 http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/how-things-begin-japan-traditional-foods/#comment-302263 <i>the immune system can’t distinguish live from dead</i> @Seth Nonsense. Where do you get this from? the immune system can’t distinguish live from dead

@Seth

Nonsense. Where do you get this from?

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