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	<title>Comments on: Three Things Elizabeth Kolbert Doesn&#8217;t Know</title>
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		<title>by: December Links &#171; The Adventures of Johnny Abacus</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/11/11/three-things-elizabeth-kolbert-doesnt-know/#comment-368054</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 10:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Eric S Raymond on parsing (x&#124;h)tml Ben Casnocha: Let&#8217;s Just Add Some Virality Ted Talk: Talks Rory Sutherland: Life lessons from an ad man via Wehr in the World Seth Roberts: Three Things Elizabeth Kolbert Doesn’t Know Ben Casnocha: Success on the Side Bob Sutton: Selecting Talent: The Upshot from 85 Years of Research Alain de Botton: A Religion for Atheists via Ben Casnocha Paul Berberian: Picking a Business Kalid: A BetterExplained Guide to Calculus Michael F Martin: Do Animals Cooperate with Non-kin Michael F Martin: Rolfe Winkler Looks Like a Major New Blogging Talent Michael F Martin: How Persuasive are You? Michael F Martin: Functionalism and Systems Theory and the Supreme Court&#8217;s Upcoming Review of American Needle Michael F Martin: The New Economics by W. Edwards Deming Michael F Martin: Reflexivity Goes Deeper than Soros Himself Seems to Realize Haseeb: Story of Isildur1 (very good read) Thorfinn: What a Free Market in Healthcare Looks Like Charlie Stross: Designing society for posterity Kevin Marks: Baron Mandelson and Magna Carta Kevin Marks: How Twitter works in theory Michael Pettis: Lecturing each other on trade Mark Wethman: Twilight of Secular Europe? Maybe, maybe not. Joe Hewitt: On Middlemen James Hamilton: Yes the future deficits are worrisome Kevin Meyer: Team Science Bill Waddell: Throwing in the Towel Brad Feld: Board Meeting Lessons from the Supreme Court Andrew Chen: Product Design Debt Versus Technical Debt Andrew Chen: Facebook Viral Marketing: When and WHy do Apps &#8220;Jump the Shark?&#8221; Rabiz Khan: The Short Sellers of Philanthropy Steve Hsu: IQ, Compression and Simple Models via Rabiz Khan Denis Mangan: The Most Read Paper in Social Science over the Last Year (direct link) Steve Blank: Times Square Strategy Session – Web Startups and Customer Development Steve Blank: Relentless – The Difference Between Motion And Action Aaron Schwartz: How I Hire Programmers The Social Pathologist: I Live in Bedford Falls [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Eric S Raymond on parsing (x|h)tml Ben Casnocha: Let&#8217;s Just Add Some Virality Ted Talk: Talks Rory Sutherland: Life lessons from an ad man via Wehr in the World Seth Roberts: Three Things Elizabeth Kolbert Doesn’t Know Ben Casnocha: Success on the Side Bob Sutton: Selecting Talent: The Upshot from 85 Years of Research Alain de Botton: A Religion for Atheists via Ben Casnocha Paul Berberian: Picking a Business Kalid: A BetterExplained Guide to Calculus Michael F Martin: Do Animals Cooperate with Non-kin Michael F Martin: Rolfe Winkler Looks Like a Major New Blogging Talent Michael F Martin: How Persuasive are You? Michael F Martin: Functionalism and Systems Theory and the Supreme Court&#8217;s Upcoming Review of American Needle Michael F Martin: The New Economics by W. Edwards Deming Michael F Martin: Reflexivity Goes Deeper than Soros Himself Seems to Realize Haseeb: Story of Isildur1 (very good read) Thorfinn: What a Free Market in Healthcare Looks Like Charlie Stross: Designing society for posterity Kevin Marks: Baron Mandelson and Magna Carta Kevin Marks: How Twitter works in theory Michael Pettis: Lecturing each other on trade Mark Wethman: Twilight of Secular Europe? Maybe, maybe not. Joe Hewitt: On Middlemen James Hamilton: Yes the future deficits are worrisome Kevin Meyer: Team Science Bill Waddell: Throwing in the Towel Brad Feld: Board Meeting Lessons from the Supreme Court Andrew Chen: Product Design Debt Versus Technical Debt Andrew Chen: Facebook Viral Marketing: When and WHy do Apps &#8220;Jump the Shark?&#8221; Rabiz Khan: The Short Sellers of Philanthropy Steve Hsu: IQ, Compression and Simple Models via Rabiz Khan Denis Mangan: The Most Read Paper in Social Science over the Last Year (direct link) Steve Blank: Times Square Strategy Session – Web Startups and Customer Development Steve Blank: Relentless – The Difference Between Motion And Action Aaron Schwartz: How I Hire Programmers The Social Pathologist: I Live in Bedford Falls [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: The Educational Value of Climategate &#171; Daniel Joseph Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/11/11/three-things-elizabeth-kolbert-doesnt-know/#comment-367564</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/11/11/three-things-elizabeth-kolbert-doesnt-know/ Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Mainstream Media Ignoring Climategate?Climategate has been ongoing for a very long time with Mosquitos in the Arc&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] <a href="http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/11/11/three-things-elizabeth-kolbert-doesnt-know/" rel="nofollow">http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/11/11/three-things-elizabeth-kolbert-doesnt-know/</a> Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Mainstream Media Ignoring Climategate?Climategate has been ongoing for a very long time with Mosquitos in the Arc&#8230; [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/11/11/three-things-elizabeth-kolbert-doesnt-know/#comment-366802</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>CO2 isn't killing the reef ecosystem by "consensus". Why don't you consult a biologist, not a climatologist. Many believe it is nitrogen run off from fertilizers, and furthermore, there is a correlation to reef predators nearest rivers.

And we don't know what the correct temperatures are, doctored data from CRU is no longer acceptable as gospel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CO2 isn&#8217;t killing the reef ecosystem by &#8220;consensus&#8221;. Why don&#8217;t you consult a biologist, not a climatologist. Many believe it is nitrogen run off from fertilizers, and furthermore, there is a correlation to reef predators nearest rivers.</p>
<p>And we don&#8217;t know what the correct temperatures are, doctored data from CRU is no longer acceptable as gospel.
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		<title>by: Ted Simpson</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/11/11/three-things-elizabeth-kolbert-doesnt-know/#comment-364016</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>As a retired professor in electrical engineering, one thing I am certain about is the overwhelming desire of young scientists to (a) publish, (b) get tenure or a promotion, and (c) go to lots of scientific gatherings and become accepted in the "cutting edge" peer group. And I haven't even mentioned the cocktail parties at these government supported love feasts!  And regarding consensus on any subject, it is good to recall what George Carlin said about the "average person."  He said, as I recall, "The average guy is not very smart. And if that bothers you, consider the fact that half of the population is dumber than him!"  Al Gore is the poster child for the religion of liberalism; he did what Willy Sutton did and went where the big money was!  What we should all be concerned about is how we will operate when the Arabs drain thier oil swamps and we get cold and unable to move around cheaply!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a retired professor in electrical engineering, one thing I am certain about is the overwhelming desire of young scientists to (a) publish, (b) get tenure or a promotion, and (c) go to lots of scientific gatherings and become accepted in the &#8220;cutting edge&#8221; peer group. And I haven&#8217;t even mentioned the cocktail parties at these government supported love feasts!  And regarding consensus on any subject, it is good to recall what George Carlin said about the &#8220;average person.&#8221;  He said, as I recall, &#8220;The average guy is not very smart. And if that bothers you, consider the fact that half of the population is dumber than him!&#8221;  Al Gore is the poster child for the religion of liberalism; he did what Willy Sutton did and went where the big money was!  What we should all be concerned about is how we will operate when the Arabs drain thier oil swamps and we get cold and unable to move around cheaply!
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		<title>by: TGGP</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/11/11/three-things-elizabeth-kolbert-doesnt-know/#comment-363858</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>A minor quibble: Murray &#38; Herrnstein said they were agnostic on the genetic contribution, although I think they also said it was a good guess to say half genes and half environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A minor quibble: Murray &amp; Herrnstein said they were agnostic on the genetic contribution, although I think they also said it was a good guess to say half genes and half environment.
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		<title>by: Seth&#8217;s blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Depression and Insomnia Linked at CureTogether</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/11/11/three-things-elizabeth-kolbert-doesnt-know/#comment-363039</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] CureTogether has found another example of the familiar depression-insomnia correlation.  Persons with depression are twice as likely to have insomnia as persons without depression. CureTogether gathered this data much more cheaply than previous studies. Unlike previous researchers, they were under no pressure to publish. (Professional researchers must publish regularly to keep their grants and their job.) Unlike previous researchers, they were under no pressure to follow a party line. On the face of it depression makes you less active. Yet insomnia is a case of being too active. So the depression-insomnia link is far from obvious. Lots of other facts connect depression and circadian rhythms; they all suggest that the intellectual basis of anti-depressants, all that stuff about serotonin and neuro-transmitters and re-uptake, is wrong. If depression is due to messed-up circadian rhythms, taking a drug at random times of day is unlikely to fix the underlying problem. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] CureTogether has found another example of the familiar depression-insomnia correlation.  Persons with depression are twice as likely to have insomnia as persons without depression. CureTogether gathered this data much more cheaply than previous studies. Unlike previous researchers, they were under no pressure to publish. (Professional researchers must publish regularly to keep their grants and their job.) Unlike previous researchers, they were under no pressure to follow a party line. On the face of it depression makes you less active. Yet insomnia is a case of being too active. So the depression-insomnia link is far from obvious. Lots of other facts connect depression and circadian rhythms; they all suggest that the intellectual basis of anti-depressants, all that stuff about serotonin and neuro-transmitters and re-uptake, is wrong. If depression is due to messed-up circadian rhythms, taking a drug at random times of day is unlikely to fix the underlying problem. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Nathan Myers</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/11/11/three-things-elizabeth-kolbert-doesnt-know/#comment-361279</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Steven: You must be joking.  Physics is the poster child for fundamental reorderings.  Right now we have two consensus theories that are fundamentally incompatible.

It may be true that in previous temperature swings, CO2 lagged temperature.  What is manifestly true is that &lt;i&gt;this time&lt;/i&gt;, CO2 is leading temperature.  It may be, likewise, that in previous events, CO2 was released from the ocean.  In &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/i&gt; event, ocean CO2 is radically elevated, to the point that it is killing whole reef ecosystems.  Therefore, this guy is barking up the wrong tree, and has evidently nothing to say about the present crisis -- which crisis it certainly is, whatever the cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven: You must be joking.  Physics is the poster child for fundamental reorderings.  Right now we have two consensus theories that are fundamentally incompatible.</p>
<p>It may be true that in previous temperature swings, CO2 lagged temperature.  What is manifestly true is that <i>this time</i>, CO2 is leading temperature.  It may be, likewise, that in previous events, CO2 was released from the ocean.  In <i>this</i> event, ocean CO2 is radically elevated, to the point that it is killing whole reef ecosystems.  Therefore, this guy is barking up the wrong tree, and has evidently nothing to say about the present crisis &#8212; which crisis it certainly is, whatever the cause.
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		<title>by: Socktopi</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/11/11/three-things-elizabeth-kolbert-doesnt-know/#comment-361246</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Patrick, I think you need to study your Latin. 

Anthony, yes. People who believe that the government planted bombs in the WTC are lunatic nutcases who are dead wrong. I don't care if they have engineering degrees...
Now of course having just said that, I would like to walk back my hyperbole. We all believe the evidence supports various "conspiracies" and I am certain I am someone else's Lunatic Nutcase.

I think my point here is that it's good that the New Yorker is rebutting D&#38;L when they go off the tracks. D&#38;L are authorities in their own right who are treated with a certain amount of deference. But in this case they are probably wrong. Global Warming is probably a serious threat and will probably require massive concerted efforts to minimize its damage. Hopefully technology will play a part. But just like that excerpt from the reviewer so eloquently puts it: downplaying the science of global warming while buying whole hog the science of a technological cure for it is a serious lapse in D&#38;L's judgement. The book reviewer not understanding that the study of nutrition is practiced by people who failed out of dental school has nothing to do with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick, I think you need to study your Latin. </p>
<p>Anthony, yes. People who believe that the government planted bombs in the WTC are lunatic nutcases who are dead wrong. I don&#8217;t care if they have engineering degrees&#8230;<br />
Now of course having just said that, I would like to walk back my hyperbole. We all believe the evidence supports various &#8220;conspiracies&#8221; and I am certain I am someone else&#8217;s Lunatic Nutcase.</p>
<p>I think my point here is that it&#8217;s good that the New Yorker is rebutting D&amp;L when they go off the tracks. D&amp;L are authorities in their own right who are treated with a certain amount of deference. But in this case they are probably wrong. Global Warming is probably a serious threat and will probably require massive concerted efforts to minimize its damage. Hopefully technology will play a part. But just like that excerpt from the reviewer so eloquently puts it: downplaying the science of global warming while buying whole hog the science of a technological cure for it is a serious lapse in D&amp;L&#8217;s judgement. The book reviewer not understanding that the study of nutrition is practiced by people who failed out of dental school has nothing to do with it.
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		<title>by: Seth&#8217;s blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mistaken Consensus in Physics?</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/11/11/three-things-elizabeth-kolbert-doesnt-know/#comment-361112</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Steven Sheets writes: I can’t really think of an area in physics where a consensus has been achieved only to be shown to be completely wrong. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Steven Sheets writes: I can’t really think of an area in physics where a consensus has been achieved only to be shown to be completely wrong. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/11/11/three-things-elizabeth-kolbert-doesnt-know/#comment-361083</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Maybe it's just me, but I can't really think of an area in physics where a consensus has been achieved only to be shown to be completely wrong. Sure, models are incomplete but this is different from being wrong. My feeling for this is that climate models have the same chance of being wrong as standard stellar models.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just me, but I can&#8217;t really think of an area in physics where a consensus has been achieved only to be shown to be completely wrong. Sure, models are incomplete but this is different from being wrong. My feeling for this is that climate models have the same chance of being wrong as standard stellar models.
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